Comments on: More on Cheney http://daryl.learnhouston.com/2006/02/15/more-on-cheney/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:23:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Mike http://daryl.learnhouston.com/2006/02/15/more-on-cheney/#comment-1662 Mike Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 #comment-1662 From what i can put together, dick shot the man, then kept all quiet. The owner of the ranch went public with the story, and this may have been against the whitehouse's "wishes." The story does seem week, "Dick talked with the owner (a day later) and decided it was best for her to announce this." Isn't this what we have a press secretary for? If this were anyone else, there would a Texas Trooper on TV going, "we haven't decided on if there was any criminal negligence on Dick's part, and I cannot comment further on an ongoing investigation" But yea, where the hell was all this concern for the Iraq war WMD, the on going lie we will "be out soon" or the goverment domestic spying? This probably isn't even the first guy Dick's shot, only the first by mistake. From what i can put together, dick shot the man, then kept all quiet. The owner of the ranch went public with the story, and this may have been against the whitehouse’s “wishes.” The story does seem week, “Dick talked with the owner (a day later) and decided it was best for her to announce this.” Isn’t this what we have a press secretary for? If this were anyone else, there would a Texas Trooper on TV going, “we haven’t decided on if there was any criminal negligence on Dick’s part, and I cannot comment further on an ongoing investigation”

But yea, where the hell was all this concern for the Iraq war WMD, the on going lie we will “be out soon” or the goverment domestic spying? This probably isn’t even the first guy Dick’s shot, only the first by mistake.

]]> By: Pamela http://daryl.learnhouston.com/2006/02/15/more-on-cheney/#comment-1663 Pamela Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 #comment-1663 I think there are a couple of issues. First, why the delay? Accidents happen. Why couldn't Dick come out - or have an appropriate rep come out - and say, "Man, this happened, it sucks, I'm sorry." No, he has someone who was not actually an eyewitness come out and pretend to be an eyewitness and do the job of a press secretary, and what does she say? That the man shot was more bruised than bloodied. (Lie) That she saw the whole thing (lie - she thought at first it was a problem with Dick's heart) and that the whole shooting was the fault of the man who got shot because, well, he didn't announce himself. You don't shoot a guy in the face and then blame it on him. And then take him to a small hospital with less capacity to take care of the kinds of injuries he had in the hopes that nobody will find out that you shot a guy. And then delay reporting it because you hope it'll just blow over and nobody'll find out. So there's the attempt to brush it under the carpet (if not actually cover it up), there's the lying about something that seems pretty straightforward, and there's the blaming of the victim. If it was just a simple accident, why do these things? I believe it was a simple accident, but I think that the response to it was completely wrong, and completely indicative of patterns of behavior that the administration engages in regularly on more important matters. I agree that there are far more important things going on that the media isn't dogging like they have been this story, and it sucks that it takes something like this to get them to pay attention, but I guess you watch the news with the media you have, not the media you want. At least they're paying a little bit of attention to something that doesn't require tonguing the assholes of the administration, which hasn't always been the case. And the coverup attempt, the truthiness without actual full truth, the lack of regard for the guy who'd been shot (it's his fault he stepped in front of my gun!) - are metaphors for the way the administration conducts itself. The story itself is sexier than discussions of the unitary executive. So people are paying attention in a way that they haven't to the Alito discussion, the Abu Ghraib matter, other more important matters than Dick Cheney fucking up and shooting a friend and then trying to cover it up (or at least not address it). I guess wall-to-wall coverage of a minor event with some metaphorical appeal is better than not covering anything of importance, which is what happened before Dick Cheney's hunting accident. It's not just the right wing who's been shrill about this. : ) I think there are a couple of issues. First, why the delay? Accidents happen. Why couldn’t Dick come out - or have an appropriate rep come out - and say, “Man, this happened, it sucks, I’m sorry.” No, he has someone who was not actually an eyewitness come out and pretend to be an eyewitness and do the job of a press secretary, and what does she say? That the man shot was more bruised than bloodied. (Lie) That she saw the whole thing (lie - she thought at first it was a problem with Dick’s heart) and that the whole shooting was the fault of the man who got shot because, well, he didn’t announce himself.

You don’t shoot a guy in the face and then blame it on him. And then take him to a small hospital with less capacity to take care of the kinds of injuries he had in the hopes that nobody will find out that you shot a guy. And then delay reporting it because you hope it’ll just blow over and nobody’ll find out. So there’s the attempt to brush it under the carpet (if not actually cover it up), there’s the lying about something that seems pretty straightforward, and there’s the blaming of the victim. If it was just a simple accident, why do these things? I believe it was a simple accident, but I think that the response to it was completely wrong, and completely indicative of patterns of behavior that the administration engages in regularly on more important matters.

I agree that there are far more important things going on that the media isn’t dogging like they have been this story, and it sucks that it takes something like this to get them to pay attention, but I guess you watch the news with the media you have, not the media you want. At least they’re paying a little bit of attention to something that doesn’t require tonguing the assholes of the administration, which hasn’t always been the case. And the coverup attempt, the truthiness without actual full truth, the lack of regard for the guy who’d been shot (it’s his fault he stepped in front of my gun!) - are metaphors for the way the administration conducts itself. The story itself is sexier than discussions of the unitary executive. So people are paying attention in a way that they haven’t to the Alito discussion, the Abu Ghraib matter, other more important matters than Dick Cheney fucking up and shooting a friend and then trying to cover it up (or at least not address it).

I guess wall-to-wall coverage of a minor event with some metaphorical appeal is better than not covering anything of importance, which is what happened before Dick Cheney’s hunting accident.

It’s not just the right wing who’s been shrill about this. : )

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